Qwen user distinguishes raw token speed from task completion time
AdInternational5848 compared Qwen 3.8 Flash Next and DeepSeekV4 Flash on a Mac Studio M1 Ultra (128GB). They reported that Qwen Flash Next seemed to take longer for end-to-end task completions than DeepSeekV4 Flash. In a reply, they clarified that Qwen demonstrated higher raw token speed and potentially double the prefill rate on their setup. They planned a more deterministic comparison of their own tasks; the post did not establish a fivefold speed difference.
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In the repliespoofph reported that Flash Next could apply a fix in five minutes and then spend an hour testing it, and described using prompts to limit extra tests and verbosity. BeaveItToLeever used a modified DeepSeek Harness with medium and occasional extra-high effort, reporting higher Qwen throughput after tuning on a different setup. These were separate experiences, not a verified fix for the author's workflow.
Mac Studio M1 Ultra, 128GB. The author did not provide matched quantizations, runtime, reasoning effort, task logs or an exact DeepSeek revision. Token throughput and end-to-end task duration measure different things.
Original October 14 post and human replies pgrlu6u and pgsautl checked October 15. Reports were not independently reproduced.